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proposing that we let many small businesses, as in hundreds of thousands of them, go over the fiscal cliff. simply put, that's why we don't have an agreement as yet. they said yesterday this is not a game. i used to be a small business owner. small business owners are regular men and women from all backgrounds who, in today's economy, are facing challenges on a daily basis. and the president's tax increase would be another crippling blow for them while doing little to nothing to solve the bigger problem here, which is our national deficit and our national debt. this debt doesn't exist because we don't tax small businesses enough. it exists because washington continues to spend too much. raising taxes on small businesses instead of taking a balanced approach that also cuts spending is wrong. it's only going to make it harder for our economy to grow. and if our economy doesn't grow, americans don't get new jobs. and the debt problem that we have will continue to threaten our children's future. as i said the day after the election, republicans are not seeking to impose our will on the preside
. #. >>> if we go over the fiscal cliff, global business travel association estimates that u.s. biz travel spending will take a $20 billion hit in the short term. but how about the long term outlook? find out next. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. >>> what are the long term effects for business travel if the economy falls off the fiscal cliff? the gbta predicts the reduced deficits and lower interest rates will lead to growth in the economy and an increase in business travel spending. >>> welcome back. now to the weather channel. reynolds wolf is standing by. what is happening around the country today? >> the story is all west. everything is taking place out west. rain, some strong winds, even some snow. some places snow getting up to arou
the greek fiscal cliff. we have our own and people here say we could be the next greece. how does that make you feel when you hear that kind of talk from american politicians, american business people, american citizens? >> extremely worrisome because you represent 25% of the global economy whereas greece, which wasn't the cause of the european crisis, only represents 2% of the european gdp. so if you guys were to actually have such deep problems, then it would mean problems for everyone globally and no one would want that. i'm sure that you'll be able to find the right solution by the end of december. >> let us hope. mr. michalos, thank you very much. sue? >>> thank you, ty. two big winners in that $587 million record powerball lottery. but how much do you really need to earn to make you happy? the answer may surprise you. >>> and before you fill up your tank with gas, listen up. aaa is warning regulators to stop sales of a certain type of fuel at the pump because it could damage your car and void your car warrantee. details on that when "power" resumes in two minutes. ♪ [ male announcer
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over the last couple of weeks. but going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> and the speaker tweeted, "how serious is the white house about avoiding the fiscal cliff?" reports suggest, in some cases, not so serious. and also, joanne, what is the strategy here, and is there a risk like looking like you're not really negotiating? >> well, you know, i think what's interesting is that there's the posture that everyone is taking in public, but then what you're hearing behind the scenes is that everyone's sort of understands what the contours of the deal are going to look like. and what i see is john boehner trying to sort of protect his caucus at this point because he probably understands that at the end of the day, that top rate is going to go up. and republicans are in a really awkward position because right now essentially they're just defending the tax cut for the top 2%. at the same time, the white house's public posture is to say well, no, we don't want to go over t
with erskine bowles and business leaders about averting the fiscal cliff and achieving an approach the white house says it wants. i made clear that we put real concessions on the line by putting revenues on the table right upfront. unfortunately, many democrats continue to rule out spending cuts that must be part of any significant agreement will reduce our deficit. mr. bowles himself said yesterday there has been no serious discussion so far. there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy. it will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes, to replace the sequester, and pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. we are the only ones with a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it will be impossible to address our country's debt crisis and get our economy going again and to create jobs. right now all eyes are on the white house.
putting out their pieces saying let's go over the fiscal cliff, let the president do this. then john cornyn, republican from texas, saying apparently the president wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. this is serious business, demanding higher taxes, more stimulus, no spending cuts and no plan to preserve and protect social security and medicare will not solve our fiscal crisis. it will make that crisis much worse. what is your response to cornyn's reaction? >> well, i would say to senator cornyn, where have you been? we've just had an election. the people had a choice between mitt romney and president obama who said let's have a balanced plan, and let's give tax cuts to the middle class. what is he talking about? this is about tax cuts. the president is saying, renew the payroll tax cut. give tax cuts to every dollar earned up to $250,000. i don't know what they're thinking, thomas. but obviously, they are putting it all on the line for the koch brothers and sheldon adelson who earn billions of dollars. they're selfish. and there's a group called patriotic millionaires who are sayi
of weeks. but going over the fiscal cliff is serious business, and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> is this based on your meeting with secretary geithner or your phone call with president obama last night. could you tell us something about that phone call? >> well, we had a very nice conversation last night. it was direct. and straightforward. but this assessment i give you today would be a product of both of those conversations. >> how much would you be open to the idea of discretionary spending cuts as part of a down payment to get to a longer range solution on entitlements and tax reforms? >> there are a lot of options on the table including that one. >> before the election you were asked whether if obama won taxes would have to go up. i are acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election i came here and made it clear that the republicans would put revenue on the table as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> my question is, what message do you have for people who look at the negot
] >> house speaker john boehner held his own meeting on the fiscal cliff negotiations. this is close to 10 minutes. >> good afternoon, everyone. the president traveled to pennsylvania to visit a small business today to talk about the fiscal cliff. unfortunately, it's the president and members of his own party who were proposing that we let many small businesses, as in hundreds of thousands of them, go over the fiscal cliff. simply put, that's why we don't have an agreement as yet. they said yesterday this is not a game. i used to be a small business owner. small business owners are regular men and women from all backgrounds who, in today's economy, are facing challenges on a daily basis. and the president's tax increase would be another crippling blow for them while doing little to nothing to solve the bigger problem here, which is our national deficit and our national this debt doesn't exist because we don't tax small businesses enough. it exists because washington continues to spend too much. raising taxes on small businesses instead of taking a balanced approach that also cuts spending
more focused on washington, on the whole policy issues around the fiscal cliff because they are trying to figure out their spending plans guessing what taxes will be. businesses are focused on if they spend x and taxed at y what's that going to leave them in terms of profitability. degree of which businesses have come off a really good four years where the rest of us have come off a more problematic four years. finally in this quarter partly because of the fiscal cliff, partly because of europe, partly because of slow down in china profits are more challenging for companies. but they are still making a lot of money. >> "wall street journal" study of 40 major companies half plan drastic cuts to their investments and spending into next. once a budget deal is reached, i mean whatever it is, do you think we'll see companies loosen their wallet? is there a bigger chance they will slow down more? >> part of this is contingent how well consumers do. companies will spend money if there's this active healthy consumer base that justifies them spending money for more activities. so, at some point
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house at the business roundtable about the economy. fiscal cliff certainly the issue in the short term for a lot of big businesses and certainly for a lot of american taxpayers. however, long term is another story when it comes to the economy, and entitlements, the president referring to that as well. as we continue to get that feedback you can check it out foxnews.com, in the meantime we're going to move onto other news as well. >> reporter: and so let's begin with the violence that is appearing to really spiral out of control. secretary of state hillary clinton says she fears a desperate president bashar al-assad in syria may resort to using chemical weapons on his own people. in the meantime, the united nations is hint thag there wil hinting that there will be no asylum for bashar al-assad as the syrian dictator makes it clear that he will die before leaving the country under any circumstances. what is going on behind the scenes, for that we turn to corn powell following all the latest developments from our mideast bureau in jerusalem. connor. >> reporter: the international and inte
of business. we need to address the longer- term. let us to the short term and avoid the fiscal cliff. at this country should not go over the cliff. everybody has a responsibility to make sure that does not happen. steve israel, who gave a splendid job, you can attest the clarity of the message. >> the administration and the president are working diligently to advance an agreement. democrats are ready and willing to compromise. we have to have people to compromise with. republican friends have shown an unwillingness to compromise. and they continue to stand by and ask us to advance issues is that making contributions to this solution. this is not difficult to arise at. one of the reasons people are associated with is they see washington and people agreeing on everything and nothing gets done. we know how to get this done. everything agrees we should pass the middle class tax cuts. we can do that tomorrow. we want to do it. all it will take is for them to say, let's do this and deal with other issues down the line. people are talking about the fiscal cliff on january 1. let's give busi
the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> speaker boehner made very clear at his press conference that he thinks the ball is in your court and the president's court. he says democrats have got to get series about spending cuts. where is the disconnect? >> i don't understand his brain so you should ask him. okay? >> reid making those comments to our own kate bolduan. i'm joined by dan lothian. dan, we're learning more about the white house plan to deal with the fiscal cliff. break it down for us. >> reporter: right. this is the plan that secretary -- treasury secretary timothy geithner took up to capitol hill yesterday. it calls for $1.6 trillion in tax increases over a ten-year period more than republicans had anticipated. in addition to that, $400 billion in spending cuts that will come later. much of that not really specified. we're looking at entitlements such as medicare. and then the plan also includes $50 billion in stimulus spending. democrats see this really as sort of the opening s
over the last couple weeks. going over the fiscal cliff is serious business and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> reporter: you had senate republican leader mitch mcconnell say after a meeting with geithner that he considered this is a step backward. and so all the rhetoric, all the talk here on capitol hill sounds pretty pessimistic at this point, guys. bill: we heard a little bit from chris van hollen. what is the latest reaction from democrats to republicans mike? melissa: democrats say if you don't like the president's plan, republicans where is your plan? where exactly are you going to generate more revenue. they're trying to draw the republicans out to put specifics out there in terms of what cuts they want to make to entitlements, feeling like that may hurt republican argument. bottom line, house democratic leader nancy pelosi says she thinks republicans will eventually see the light. melissa: why am i confident? because it is the right thing to do. the american people expect and deserve this to happen. it
to take place. 32 days and counting. >>> the fight over the fiscal cliff is having an affect on small businesses right now. just as congress, the people running those businesses, they're not agreeing on a solution, but poppy harlow, she's got the perspective from the folks who are suffering. >> if any company, any business did the method of accounting as the government sdshgs we would be in jail. >> you sound like you've had it? >> yes, basically i have. >> debt is a cancer. that's what bob told me when we met him at his limousine company in freehold, new jersey. stoo here's the reservations. staffed 24 hours a day. >> reporter: he started the business back in 1984. today he has a staff of 75. 53 cars. one big question. >> i just want congress to tell me to come up with what the boundaries are so i know -- i know how to run my business. i know how to plan. >> he has laid off four employees in the last six months. he says the business made it through the stock market crash of 1987, the savings and loan crisis, and 9/11 with no decline in revenue until the financial crisis of 2008 and n
person, everyone talks about what the fiscal cliff could do to small business, what obama care can do for small business, but you said we shouldn't worry about that so much, that we should get some sort of compromise in order to keep moving and keep talking and keep moving forward? >> well, i think that it was pretty clear during the course of the election and since and even in the president's speech today where he said he's willing to give on some revenue and some spending cuts, he's proposed some, he's already passed some into law. and beyond that, just from my perspective, what i see is that we know that we're a confidence-based economy, we're 70% of the economy driven by consumer spending and anything that puts a crimp in consumer spending is not good for the economy. so to put a tax rise, a tax rate increase for the middle class makes no sense to me. someone who makes 50, 60, $70,000 a year will lose and will take away a lot of discretionary purchases from people like me and travel and a whole host of other areas. i hope our leaders in washington are listening and they take the s
to the country's credit rating in the new year. each day toward the fiscal cliff is also another day closer to the country maxing out on its borrowing limit. president obama talked to business leaders today. >> the only thing that the debt ceiling is good for as a weapon is to destroy your credit rating. >> reporter: he's worried republicans may re newsto raise the country's debt ceiling to get their way on spending cuts and risk defaulting on the country's loans. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it's a bad strategy for your businesses. and it is not a game that i will play. >> reporter: republicans are pushing back. >> he's the president, not the emperorer. >> reporter: fiscal cliff negotiations have been at a stand still since monday when republicans proposed raising revenue by closing tax loopholes, not by raising rates on the rich as the president has insisted. >> we're not insisting rates just out of spite, but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> we can't just keep borrowing money, raising taxes, and expecting the problem to go away. >> reporter: house
'm disappointed in where we are. but going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> reporter: house democratic leader nancy pelosi quickly dismissed boehner's remarks as a negotiating maneuver. >> i think they'll come around. it's a tactic. it's a tactic. >> reporter: but you hear a strikingly similar message from other top democratic leaders saying the ball is in the republicans' court. >> we are waiting for some specifics somewhere from our republican colleagues to show that they're serious on negotiations. >> reporter: as the country fast approaches the fiscal cliff, the two sides are talking past each other. democrats say they've laid down their marker hiking tax rates on wealthier americans. and it's up to republicans to propose specific spending cuts they want to entitlement programs. however, republicans say they've offered a concession putting revenue on the table. and they say it's now up to the president and his fellow democrats to feel some pain and propose cuts in medicar
. each day toward the fiscal cliff is also another day closer to the country maxing out on its borrowing limits. president obama called it a dangerous lesson when he talked to business leaders today. >> the only thing that debt ceiling is good for as a weapon is to destroy your credit rating. >> reporter: he's worried republicans may refuse to raise the debt ceiling and risk defaulting on the country's loan. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it's a bad strategy for your businesses. and it is not a game that i will play. >> reporter: republicans are pushing back. >> he's the president, not the emperor. he does not have the power. >> reporter: fiscal cliff negotiations have been at a standstill since monday. not by raising rates on the rich as the president had insisted. >> we're not insisting on rates just out of spite, but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> we can't just keep borrowing money, raising taxes and expecting the problem to go away. >> reporter: house members headed home for a long weekend with democrats so far unsuccessful in their efforts to
to benefit if lawmakers get a deal on this payroll tax cut and if they -- on the fiscal cliff, rather, and if they don't, it could harm consumer can ha confidence and in turn businesses like this one in pennsylvania. but, chris, also expect republicans to sort of lob a counterpunch today. i expect them to sort of highlight a business nearby that could be harmed if taxes do go up on those making $250,000 or more because, of course, that is for some small businesses their budget level. chris? >> and one thing, a quick follow-up, did the white house -- do you have any indication did the white house expect the reaction they got on capitol hill yesterday? i assume with this proposal, which much of it isn't new. this is essentially the president's budget proposal from last year, that they didn't think john boehner was going to say, that sounds good, let's do that. but did they expect the dismissiveness and john boehner's tone in his press conference yesterday? did that catch them by surprise at all? >> reporter: well, i think the white house democrats were a little surprised by the backlash
in the future -- your business is in transportation, too -- we are mired in conversations about the fiscal cliff. we are talking about long-term infrastructure, a long term energy plan. >> this is the perfect opportunity for the government to work together to achieve a common goal. there is plenty of times when our interest might not call last with the interest of either of the parties. this is the opportunity we have never had before. you could have consumer, business, and the government's all working together to take advantage of this huge resource. for us, it makes so much sense because it makes business sense. we get about $1.65 a quilt when natural gas. from the government point of view, everybody is talking about jobs and the fiscal cliff. everyone talks about taxes and what is going to happen with the fiscal cliff. there has been $1500 gone to increase oil prices. you can get them that tax cut today if you invested in our report. everybody talks about entitlements. high oil prices make the social security trust insolvent five years sooner than they would if he did not have high oil prices
not want to do. >> as we continue to move to solve the fiscal cliff problem, one thing we want to look at is make sure small business is ok. i had my first business when i was 19 years old -- a sandwich shop. listen to small businesses, look across there, they are the engine that makes the economy grow. today we will meet with individuals in the business community. next week, a small business coalition will talk to us on ways we can solve the fiscal cliff while the same time growing this economy. the goal of this republican majority is to solve the fiscal cliff once and for all and put us on a path to grow the economy. >> we are 34 days away from what would be the largest tax increase in american history, and the speaker boehner and the republicans have put forward a balanced plan that would prevent that from happening and not devastate our economy at a time when our economy continues to struggle and people are having a tough time finding work. we need to take action that will insure that small-business owners all across this country continue to be able to survive. many have said that
. recently he published a report assessing the challenges of approaching the fiscal cliff and the most effective way to achieve long-term, fiscal stability. he received his phd from the university of pennsylvania. that will be a recurring theme in these introductions. [laughter] dr. zandi, thank you for being here. dr. hassett is the director and senior fellow at the american enterprise institute. he holds a phd from the university of pennsylvania. his research includes the u.s. economy, tax policy, and the stock market. he is previously a senior economist at the board of governors at the federal reserve system. he went to that graduate school of business at columbia university. he has worked for both the george w. bush and clinton administrations. both of you went to the same university. i'm sure you can agree on everything today. dr. zandi first. >> thank you for the opportunity. it is an honor to be here with heaven, a good friend of mine. let me say -- kevin, a good friend of mine. let me say that these are my own personal views. lawmakers have to resolve three issues -- first, the
. there is new intrigue in the fight over the fiscal cliff talks today. both sides have messages out this morning that seem to echo the same old position. this on the heels of president obama holding a campaign-style event in suburban philadelphia to sell his solution. he said if congress does not extend the bush tax cuts for the middle class, everyone's taxes will go up january 1st. >> i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> meanwhile house speaker john boehner says the latest proposal from the white house would cripple the economy. the plan calls for a boost in revenue by $1.6 trillion over the next decade. >> they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean it's, it's -- not a serious proposal. so right now we're almost nowhere. >> >> mike viqueira joins us live from the white house. where is almost nowhere? >> it's inside the beltway and it's business as usual. it's also december 1st, alex, and we have exactly one month now to avert th
book dentist appointment or pull a hamstring and let him get his way and own the fiscal cliff debacle. >> eric: it's not a bad call. this could be terrible for the economy and hurt jobs and businesses. but honestly, if you are ready, america, if you are ready, hold your nose, take a deep breath and take the medicine. it will fix the problem and the deficit problem as long as everything in the fiscal cliff happens. as long as sequestration happens it will hurt defense. tax rate goes up. eventually you will get someone out, to get that president out and get president who wants lower tax rates and congress that wants the lower tax rate and maybe a senate. it would hurt dramatically. best time to do it is now. >> andrea: there are two schools of thought here. one if you follow twitter or watch republicans who are on the pundit circle, they say let them go off cliff and let obama own that. there is another one that says just let him have what he wants and then when the economy nose dives he will have to own it. republicans are going to get blamed anyway. do you feel strong about either one
are mired in conversations about a fiscal cliff on the very right now. we're talking about long-term infrastructure build-out, a long-term energy plan. what role should c.e.o.'s have and the federal government have in making sure this gets done? >> this is the perfect opportunity for the federal government and for state governments to work together to achieve a common goal, right? there's plenty of times where, when we run a business, our interests might not coalesce with the interests of either of the parties. as fred said, this is the opportunity that we have never had in this country before, where you can have consumer, the business and the governments all working together to take advantage of this huge resource, if you want to call it saudi america. from a waste management perspective, for us it makes so much sense, because it makes business sense. we get about $1.65 equivalent with natural gas and $4.10 diesel, so it makes great sense for our business. from a government point of view everybody today is talking about jobs and the fiscal cliff. our recommendations in the repo
the fiscal cliff and argument from small businesses and others, if you increase our rate, we're either going to have to layoff individuals, not going to hire anybody else right now, and so, therefore, this economy that's already stalled is not going to grow at a clip. >> you remember two years ago, the question was, should we keep the bush rates, at least temporarily, given the problems in the economy and at that time, all the democrats acknowledged raising taxes is not a way to boost economic growth. for whatever reason, this time, there seems to be more of an ideological commitment that the rates have a rise and i think the president ought to be thinking, how do we grow. >> that's what the president said in 2010, we can't afford taxes right now in this down economy, what's changed. >> two years, i guess the election change. great to see you this morning, appreciate it. >> coming up on the show, it's the phone call that every parent dreads, informing you your child has been in an accident. this father and son got through it and now giving back, helping veterans serving life changing challen
in our economy. once we resolve the cliff, we need long-term fiscal reduction so that businesses can climb to the future. to get families and businesses certainty, we must agree in the next few weeks on specific spending cuts and specific revenue increases that reduce the deficit to avoid the fiscal cliff. we should not put off the hard decisions with gimmicks or with triggers. that is what got us here in the first place. it is time to bite the bullet and make the tough decisions and make them now. the first thing we should do is immediately and permanently extend the middle-class tax cuts. this will provide needed certainty to america's families and businesses and markets. this decisive action will ensure millions of american families do not see a tax hike of more than $2,000 starting next month. any agreement must also include a long-term extension of the debt ceiling. america cannot afford another debilitating fiscal showdown. has to be a package deal. then we need to enact a long term and, granted the solution. the most serious plan to recommend $4 trillion in deficit reductions
and the business roundtable, a big business lobbying group. this morning fiscal cliff negotiations appear to be at a stand still. treasury secretary tim geithner says the president's offer is unwavering. we're going to let tax rates go up for top earners and republicans will have to work with that reality. >> there is no responsible way we can govern this country with those low rates in place for future generations. those rates are going to have to go up. >> house speaker john boehner appears to be struggling now that the president and democrats are negotiating for a position of power. talking points memo points out republicans are used to getting 70% to 75% of what they ask for in these types of negotiations but now speaker boehner is going on and on about how he's shocked and amazed at president's plan and is refusing to offer a counter plan on the republican side. you want to talk about this or anything else, join us online at current.com/stephaniemiller. we'll see you with more after the break. kind of guys who do like rev
the fiscal cliff, as the president and republicans continue with verbal jabs about each others plans. >> tom: i'm tom hudson. businesses aren't waiting for a deal, they're rewarding shareholders with special dividends ahead of higher taxes in 2013. >> susie: in
in april, 2011. the last minute on the fiscal cliff -- i do not think it is a good way to do business. it seems to be the way we are doing business in this town. host: if we were to go over, what happens? guest: probably, congress would be back in session quickly and we would do something but i am talking about right now, hopefully, and continue to negotiate. it is not to question of dollars and cents. some people have said we could let the rates go up and the republicans could take something down and they could call that a tax cut. people would lose faith in the institution and political leadership. trust is a funny commodity. you have it until you do not. you do not get it back if you lose the trust and then do the right thing the next day. we should convince the country, the markets and the world that america can make smart decisions and tough compromises. this would be a step in the right direction of showing we can work together, and we could put the people first. we have differences and we could fight without putting them in harm's way. host: roger altman writes in "the financia
christmas. >> america about to go cliff diving. >> it is not a question, it is strictly business. >>> there's a pro tip of, when one side is leaking the other side's proposals and negotiations, they are not going well, at all. and the fiscal cliff negotiations are not going well at all. on thursday republicans leaked the white house's opening bid and we have some exclusive tape of that. >> all right. somebody will have to play a little game. we'll play yours. so let's just say that you paid me because it is in your interest to pay me. but i want your answer and the money by noon tomorrow. >> senator, you can have my answer now, if you like. my offer is this -- nothing. >> okay. maybe that's not actually exclusive tape of the budget negotiations, but it is kind of the spirit of the thing. president obama's opening bid to the republicans goes like this. first democrats get a trillion dollars in tax revenue by letting the high-income bush tax expire. that hatch matches the spending cuts in the 2011 debt ceiling deal. a trillion for a trillion. then democrats and republicans get 6 billion worth
the family business, continue to grow, while at the same time make sure we solve this fiscal cliff. look, each and every day, as we walk the halls, you continue to ask questions. you want the answers solving the fiscal cliff. we put an answer on the table. the president now has to engage. i think the next 72 hours are critical. if he sits back and continues to play politics, that will give you an answer of where we're going. this is an opportunity for this country to lead. this is an opportunity for the president to lead. >> at these fiscal cliff negotiations and debate continues, i think it's important to remember that washington doesn't have a revenue problem. it has a spending problem. and under this administration, under president obama, we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate and yet he keeps demanding that we raise taxes in order to pay for more spending. this will only hurt our economy, ernston young has done an analysis of the president's proposal. and said that it would cost 700,000 jobs, at a time when our economy continues to struggle. there's a better way an
speaker, john boehner, both expressing optimism on those fiscal cliff negotiations in washington. the dow rallied 100 points yesterday off of those comments. how many times have you heard me say congress will mess it up. >>> goldman sachs ceo met with the president and others yesterday for those fiscal cliff talks. listen to what he told wolf blitzer when asked if taxes should be raised on those making more than $250,000 a year. if that's what it takes to make the math work when you look at entitlement side and revenue side, i wouldn't preclude that. of course we would have to do that if the numbers drive that way. >> he said america can't afford itself right now the way we're going. fiscal cliff talks today continue with geithner making the rounds on capitol hill. later this morning, third quarter gdp expected to be revised higher. economists expect gdp for july to september to be revised from 2% to 2.8%. that would be good news. this is still modest growth. everyone hopes that next year will be a better year than this one in terms of growth. you want to see more than 2.5% growth consist
with the fiscal cliff, but also a new cabinet and some reports say he could appoint new cabinet members in the next couple of weeks, including secretary of state, and someone to be the new defense secretary as well. and that means could susan rice get the call? all indications are yes, at this point, unless for some reason, john kerry sneaks in because he'd have a smoother confirmation, juliet. >> juliet: yeah, the problem is what happened with benghazi seems to be a replay of what happened when she was involved with watching over africa when she was at the state department. and the-- exactly being back in 1998. there was information that al-qaeda had cells in some of the major cities in africa and that they asked, asked for more security and didn't get it. sound familiar? and yesterday on sean hannity's show, the family of two of the victims killed in the 1998 bombings had some comments. >> what we do know as early as 1996 our intelligence community had live active sells, in nairobi, kenya, despite those facts nothing was done to increase securities in our embassies in nairobi or tanza
and the fiscal cliff. everyone talks about taxes and what is going to happen with the fiscal cliff. there has been $1500 gone to increase oil prices. you can get them that tax cut today if you invested in our report. everybody talks about entitlements. high oil prices make the social security trust insolvent five years sooner than they would if he did not have high oil prices. america needs jobs and growth. following the recommendations in our report will lead to both of those. it would be good for american business. >> i will start with senator alexander. tell me about energy policy and where it fits in with the fiscal cliff. what we will spend money on and how we were tightened our belts. >> the major place it fits is the right policy would create an environment which would produce a lot more revenue. that would help to reduce the debt. the federal government doesn't spend much money on energy. energy research is about $6 billion a year. i would like to see it doubled. this report is a blueprint for independence and i think it is the right blueprint. we are not in a position to be held host
debt push has doubters in the discussion about the fiscal cliff. host: and in the washington post is a picture of three c.e.o.'s coming out of the white house. this is patricia wuertz, she is the chief executive of archer daniel's midland. emmett fraser of merck and another person walking out. we're going to move onto william in maryland on our republican line. hi, william. caller: gorn. i love watching c-span, i'm a first time caller. host: welcome. caller: thank you. i'm not the greatest at this, but i can tell you as an african-american republican, who is a home owner association's president for his community of 339 homes, and someone who works in security, and someone who volunteers at least 40 hours a week on his community, there is a issue with us as americans and picking up slack. we put too much on the federal government to do. we as people need to stand more for each other and help each other. and i guarantee you if we took the money out of the politics, and we as the people stood together with one another and helped each other as in the churches and the communities, just
leadership says he thinks president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff by proposing higher taxes, no spending cuts and no plans to save entitlements. with president obama going to pennsylvania today, the house republican whip, kevin mccarthy's office put out a video profiling a small business nearby in pennsylvania that would get hurt by a tax hike. >> i'm jerry gorsky from an engineering company. however good or bad we do is my income. this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> reporter: i mentioned president obama is going out on the trail, if you will in pennsylvania to sell his arguments. one would expect we would hear some sort of response from speaker john boehner after that. jon. jon: what are the democrats saying? i mean about these g.o.p. complaints? what is your response? >> reporter: they are saying republicans if you don't like the president's plan, where is your own plan? they are asking for specifics on revenue in terms of tax revenue. they are also asking for specifics on what repu
also appreciate the gentleman's focus on the fiscal cliff and indicating that we need to resolve that prior to leaving the 112th congress. i think those are both positive announcements. i applaud him for that. on the fiscal cliff, we discussed this all the time but i want to inform the majority leader, there are now 175 signatures, we hope to have more, and would obviously welcome people on your side of the aisle, on the discharge petition for the walz bill which mirrors the senate bill as the majority leader i'm sure knows, to assure that no individual who makes $200,000 or less in net taxable income or a family of $250,000 or less will have -- see a tax increase on january 1. hopefully we will resolve the fiscal cliff, get an agreement. but i again ask my friend, the walz bill will be compliant with the rules. it will not have a blue slip problem, obviously. and hopefully we could move that bill. again, for the purposes of giving confidence to the 98% of our taxpayers who are making less than the sums put forward in the bill, $200,000, $250,000. i understand and anticipate the
the message that the country cares about not going off of the fiscal cliff and put it in place a comprehensive debt deal to deal with our country's fiscal challenges. the message they bought was we do not want you to go off the cliff. we do not want to bet the country. we want you to fix the country. we had a number of productive meetings in the past couple of days at the white house and leadership with the house and senate. and the first of house and senate members. we have come back pleased that we have been able to deliver the message of how the are so many people with different backgrounds and political points of view and life experiences who believe this is a critical moment for the country and a test for the country. but we are asking the members of congress to do is come together and take on these challenges, work together and put in place a plan for the good of the country. it is not about special interests. it is about public interest. this is a message dated first group of folks -- a diverse group of folks can deliver. on the campaign to fix the debt, i am so thrilled with what has h
this morning. we're still worried about the fiscal cliff. this is touch and go here. markets finished up a little bit yesterday. but they came off the day's highs after downbeat comments from house speaker john boehner on ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations, which are more of a tiff than a solution at this point. >>> new mortgage rate numbers for you still near historic lows. 3.32%. everyone is shaking their head on the table. 2.64% for a 15-year fixed. now, interestingly is the cherished mortgage deduction on the table in the fiscal cliff talks? they are fighting hard to make sure that deduction doesn't go away. they say getting rid of it for any level of earners would hit the home sales just as they are coming back. who benefits the most? households earning more than $250,000 a year. average $5,500. for those making less than $40 it was only a $91 benefit. what will happen to america's favorite tax break? still big unknown in these fiscal talks. >> you have to believe it will not last 14 months the way it is. >> if you are on the coast and chicago, it is high. home priced areas. people a
about the tax component of this fiscal cliff and it absolutely is a tax component. we talk about taxes as it relates to small businesses and creating jobs. we talk about taxes as it relates to individual families and being able to make ends meet. but what this chart shows, mr. speaker, is spending and tax revenue of the federal government of the united states of america from 1947 out to 2077. and you can't see the intory indicate detail here, mr. speaker, but what you can see here from far, far away is this green line that represents tax revenue is a relatively flat and constant line. as a general rule it doesn't matter whether tax rate were the 90% marginal rates, the 70% marginal rates that they were when john f. kennedy was president and he cut taxes or whether they were 28 marginal rate during the reagan years. mr. speaker, it turns out -- and this is of no surprise to you -- turns out the american people are pretty smart. and if you raise taxes on this behavior, they switch to this behavior. and if you raise taxes on that behavior, they switch to this behavior. because at the end
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